Oncovite?

16 years 2 months ago #13417 by Patricia
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Hi Gabriel....most doctors use the serum Bl2 test but that really doesn't give you an accurate reading in the tissues....The uMMA test which is a urine test for Methylmalonic Acid gives a true reading.....Mayo's uses it as their gold standard...as do others.....unfortunately a lot of doctors do not know about it including urologists. An elevated level of Methylmalonic acid will indicate a B l2 deficiency. Bl2 deficiency is present in about 20% of the elderly.
And lord knows how many of us who have cystectomies are affected as the only place to metabolise Bl2 is in the ileum which is used for the reconstruction of internal pouches.
Pat

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16 years 2 months ago #13413 by gabriel21
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Hi Pat

Could you please explain "gold standard being the quantatative uMMA test".

Thanks. (I'm ESOL)

Gabriel

My father is a male, 65, nonsmoker. Hematuria 01/08 TURB: T1 G3 widespread bladder+prostatic urethra; 3-month BCG.
Clean until 02/11: small TURB with no biopsy; 06/11 tumour detected TURB 08/11: awaiting biopsy, prostatic adenoma removed. Biopsies show both were benign. (...)

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16 years 2 months ago #13412 by Patricia
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At his age he's lucky if he's still metabolizing a lot of the B's.......how wierd. Has your doctor done a test for Bl2 deficiency...gold standard being the quantatative uMMA test.
I personally think its waaay to much Vitamin A....but hey i'm just a pharmacist

Supplement Facts
Serving Size: 1 Tablet
Servings Per Container:

Amount per Serving % Daily Value


Vitamin A 9000 IU 180

Vitamin C 500 mg 833

Vitamin D D3 400 IU 100

Vitamin E 100 IU 333

Thiamin (B1) 0.34 mg 23

Riboflavin (B2) 0.5 mg 29

Niacin (B3) 5 mg 25

Vitamin B6 25 mg 1250

Folate,Folic Acid,Folacin 0.4 mcg 100

Vitamin B12 1.6 mcg 25

Pantothenic acid 2.3 mg 23

Zinc 7.5 mg 50

* Daily Value not established

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16 years 2 months ago #13409 by gabriel21
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My father starts BCG on Monday for T1 G3.

His doctor says the Oncovite supplement would be good for him, but only if taking the B vitamins out. He claims that Bs make both good and bad cells stronger.

What do you guys think about this?

My father is a male, 65, nonsmoker. Hematuria 01/08 TURB: T1 G3 widespread bladder+prostatic urethra; 3-month BCG.
Clean until 02/11: small TURB with no biopsy; 06/11 tumour detected TURB 08/11: awaiting biopsy, prostatic adenoma removed. Biopsies show both were benign. (...)

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16 years 3 months ago #12868 by Gracie
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Hi Chris -

I'm interested in knowing why you are so harsh in your assessment.

I'm not taking oncovite at the moment but considering it. Dr. O'Donnell in Iowa also suggested I take them. I just have always been leary of anything in pill form.

If you knew Dr. Lamm - you would see what a genuine person he is. He is not money motivated at all. He has helped me and not asked for money but asked only that I make a donation to BCAN and the like. He truly wants to beat this damn thing. His office lacks the glitz of some of the better funded university doctor's offices. He is in my opinion - one of a few doctors that AREN'T motivated by money.

Just my $.02.

Best,
Gracie



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16 years 3 months ago #12856 by timb
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don't hold back Chris.

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