Symptom of BCG's?

17 years 4 months ago #2371 by Rosemary
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Elaine,

I am so sorry about your Mom.

I think that this statement is very telling....

You said some very astute things in your post which indicate much thought on the matter.

Since you are being so open, was your Mom shizophrenic?

Thanks for your very open post on the subject.

Regards,
Rosemary

Rosemary
Age - 55
T1 G3 - Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
Dx January 2006

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17 years 4 months ago #2369 by rugrat1956
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My goodness. What a thread! I am a simpleton, born on a poor dirt farm in Indiana and have never lived more than seven miles from that farm. I loved my childhood on that farm and I've loved my 32 yr marriage to Mr rugrat but you all have my imagination spinning reading these posts. Greg, I would love to read a synopsis of your experiences. I am not well educated nor exceptionally well read, so please keep this thread going so I can read along. Love it.

Jumping into this topic... I have had five suicides in my family, including my mother. Severe depression runs amuck within my aunts, uncles and cousins. I have had a little experience with depression, but I usually get manic and want to spread happiness and cheer beyond belief. :) The psychiatrists tell me most my family problem is genetic; the brain short circuits from misguided brain chemicals, but there is always a thread of reactive suicide. Suicide born from learned trait, learned reaction to stresses. Solution to stress. The thought of suicide is more accessible to the brain if it was imaginable and 'acceptable' to another family member. Does that make sense? My mom was in a state of depression that meds nor counseling could overcome. Her thought process was wrong. She was hallucinating from her own brain waves. The doctors say it was much like an epileptic brain wave malfunction only instead of coming out as physical seizures it changes the actual thought process and what is unthinkable to us was acceptable to her brain. That was many years ago and I came to terms with it after much research, so I have no problem talking about it.

It haunts me because her suicide is pretty much what has lead two of my doctors to believe that my 'other health problems' are all in my head. They have stalled me around for seven months and now I have a doctor who is determined to get to the bottom of my continuing symptoms. But I am paying for mom's suicide. I am not feeling sorry for myself. I am mad I didn't realize this was what they thought until they finally point blank told me. They should have told me much sooner so I could have gone to a specialist then instead of thinking they were trying to help me. Enough of that. I was gullible.

Anyway it is difficult to tell which suicides in my family were biological and which were reactive. All were tragic. There are strides being made in the psychiatric field but maybe not enough.

That is all I know on that. ;D

Keep up the thread and educate me you guys!! take care, elaine the rugrat...

elaine f.
dob- 1956
female- Indiana, USA
caucasian
smoked cigarettes- 1975-?
5cm-noninvasive- low grade- papillary
TURB- Sept 11,2006

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17 years 4 months ago #2349 by Mike
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Hi,

just as I would risk the opinion that Cancer has in MOST cases far more to familial heredity and genetics that extraneous activity and events.

Yes it is clear that tobacco increases the chances of Cancer but the health Nazis would lead one to believe it IS the cause and WILL cause cancer, which is patently untrue and merely another 'beneficial crisis' on which politicians feed and medics tend to shelter!

I have friends who have died of lung cancer after an all too brief life out in fresh air and a number of elderly acquaintances who have smoked heavily for 50+ years with no ill effects.

We have as little idea of what ACTUALLY causes cancer as we have of how to cure it - we do however glibly pontificate about both the 'probable' causes and the attempted control of symptoms - neither are deffinitive and the treatments are when all is said and done fairly rudimentary and all too barbaric - cloacked in too much mumbo jumbo that passes the patient by.

Ask anyone who has been diagnosed with CANCER if the understood, listened or heard one word of the rest of the 'worthy' comments of the consultant who told them ;) I have watched sangommas have the same stunning effect on their patients!

I have Cancer but I'm damned if I will ever be prepared to think of myself primarily as cancer ;D We must all work WITH our medical teams but WE must do much of the work as our team is and must be led by US.

That we are here and so very alive must be Nature and not nurture!

Regards,
Greg L-W.

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17 years 4 months ago #2347 by Rosemary
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Thank you, and yes, it was Margot and not Mariel.

This is a very interesting comment.


Rosemary
Age - 55
T1 G3 - Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
Dx January 2006

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17 years 4 months ago #2341 by Mike
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Hi,

I'm not sure but as I recall Ernest's granfather committed suicide - Ernest's brother deffinitely did and long after Ernest's suicide in 1961 it was in fact his Grand Daughter Margot who so sadly emmulated him.

Margot's death was doubly sad as she had so much to live for - yet she was so short of friends that her body lay undiscovered in her flat and NO ONE missed her :'(

I have little doubt that virtually ALL is nature and very little is nurture but the myth of nurture is promoted to ensure parental involvement :-/

Regards,
Greg L-W.

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17 years 4 months ago #2339 by Rosemary
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Okay, Greg,

nature VS nurture

Could it be that Muriel was mimicking a behaviour?  Copping a solution?



Can you help me follow this in simpler terms?  Where did this come from?  

BTW, I am not at this point, particularly worried about Mets.  In May, my CAT scan was noted as UNREMARKABLE.  I may be more worried down the line, though.
Like Scarlett O'Hara said,  "I'll worry about that tomorrow."  Must be a Southern thing.

What was it Shakespeare said? (you probably know this quote better than me)

Life is made up of 1,000 little shocks....

Rosemary
Age - 55
T1 G3 - Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
Dx January 2006

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