Oncovite?

16 years 2 weeks ago #15103 by cta7978
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Double blind randomized clinical trials?... My ass. His Oncovite trials are an absolute joke.. Ask anyone with a scientific background to review his plots and they will laugh! It's absolute BS. But believe in flying pigs if you want. Always trust the car dealer to give you a good deal right?

It's a multivitamin folks!!!.. It has never been through any valid scientific trials for bladder cancer! Take it if you want, but really, don't expect it to be beneficial fighting bladder cancer. I drink lots of Whiskey and diet cola and have been cancer free for 2 years, and I don't take Oncovite.

But, on the flipside.. It's mainly Canadian Whiskey that I mix with my diet Pepsi. So.. that's a possible lead???

I think some doctors will agree with patients about taking Oncovite because they know it won't hurt the patient and it makes the patient's feel like they are doing something about a disease that is probably quite out of their hands. Nothing wrong with taking a multivitamin, just don't falsely believe it's a cure-all or cure-anything!


Chris A.
Diagnosed T1G3 - 3/01/06
37 yo, Seattle, WA

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16 years 1 month ago #13758 by gabriel21
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I would like to share Dr. Lamm's reply with you. Thanks Rosemary for advising me to ask him.

> question: Dear Dr. Lamm,
>
> My father 61 has been diagnosed T1 G3 bladder cancer.
>
> After TURB on 01/24/08, he will start BCG for 3 months.
>
> We asked his urologist about the use of Oncovite and when he saw its
> composition he thought it would be good to use it, except for its B
> vitamins, which he believes "could strengthen both the good and the bad
> cells".
>
> What do you have to say about this urologist's statement?
>
> Many thanks
>
> Gabriel


"B vitamins in Oncovite
Dear Friend
Vitamin B6 is the first of the vitamins to reduce bladder tumor recurrence
in a randomized clinical trial. Folic acid is increasingly prominent in
prevention studies. I know of no reports showing a negative effect of B
vitamins in cancer- but that doesn't mean it can't happen. What counts is
the results. The Oncovite preparation has been confirmed to dramatically
reduce bladder tumor recurrence in double blind randomized clinical
trials- the platinum standard of medical evidence.
Thanks for asking,
Don Lamm, MD"

My father is a male, 65, nonsmoker. Hematuria 01/08 TURB: T1 G3 widespread bladder+prostatic urethra; 3-month BCG.
Clean until 02/11: small TURB with no biopsy; 06/11 tumour detected TURB 08/11: awaiting biopsy, prostatic adenoma removed. Biopsies show both were benign. (...)

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16 years 2 months ago #13455 by timb
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there's also quite promising research into green tea extract when used as a supplement during BCG treatments. I used it but I have to add that I eventually had a cystectomy! I think your aim with all of these things should be your overall well-being and not just the eradication of cancer. I felt really great when I improved my diet and took supplements and exercised more. Also have a google on aged garlic too.

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16 years 2 months ago #13430 by yosemite05
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Hi All,

My husband takes one Oncovite a day. He was diagnosed with BC in Nov. 2005, surgery in Dec. 2005, and has had no recurrences.

Yosemite

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16 years 2 months ago #13425 by gabriel21
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Patricia,

I'm afraid, being so new to all this, I might misinterpret your information, but I have noted down your comments to ask the four doctors we know.

Rosemary,

Thanks very much for all you say. I have just sent the question about B vitamins to Dr. Lamm through the link you posted. It is remarkable that my father has been diagnosed the same tumour you had. Congratulations for your progress and thank you for your constant support and care.

I'd like to say to both of you that it's very comforting to read your comments in the different topics of the forum.

Love,

Gabriel

My father is a male, 65, nonsmoker. Hematuria 01/08 TURB: T1 G3 widespread bladder+prostatic urethra; 3-month BCG.
Clean until 02/11: small TURB with no biopsy; 06/11 tumour detected TURB 08/11: awaiting biopsy, prostatic adenoma removed. Biopsies show both were benign. (...)

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16 years 2 months ago #13419 by Rosemary
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Gabriel,

You are such a good son.

Here is Dr. Lamm's site discussing the Oncovite issue. Admittedly, this website has a slanted view of Oncovite usage (Dr. Lamm is the creator, developer, researcher and producer of the Oncovite supplement.) However, Dr. Lamm, in my opinion, has been a great advocate of Bladder Cancer patients. Because he has been very responsive to us and our general inquiries, it is my belief that his heart is in the right place and that he is dispensing advice for the true benefit of the Bladder Cancer patient.

My own Urological Surgeon stated the Oncovite issues as being "murky"....

I personally did not use the Oncovite supplement throughout my BCG treatments, however I used a comparable Vitamin/Herbal Supplement of my own choice.

I do not see how it can hurt....

askdrlamm.bcgoncology.com/

Your father is very lucky to have you for a son.

Your friend,
Rosemary

Rosemary
Age - 55
T1 G3 - Tumor free 2 yrs 3 months
Dx January 2006

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