Ileal conduit people, heres a tip when changing your bag

16 years 4 months ago #9778 by Gene Beane
Rick,
I think its great you like to see the stuff in your bag. I told Gene goldfish would be good...anyway going to give going away for 2 days a try and hope we don't spring a leak all over the slot machine. Ginger

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16 years 4 months ago #9776 by RAH
My pouch is a Hollister 14603.
It has a thin skin barrier with a floating flange. It is only 2 1/4 inches in diameter. It is not a pre-cut. My stormo isn't completely round so my wife cuts the inner circle to my stormo shape.
I use the 18403 bag. It has a nearly clear front. I like to see my urine and all the mucus floating around.

I was surprised that the thin wafer last longer then the thicker ones for me. I asked my doctor about bacteria, and he didn’t think it was a problem. My stormo sticks out about 1½ inches from my stomach. He said this helps prevent nearly all complications with stormo.

Take Care
“The Bagman from Washington”
Rick

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16 years 4 months ago #9734 by Gene Beane
Anna,
Good for you, I am sorry to hear Florida is short on stoma nurses, they are a great bunch up here at the Cleveland Clinic, we also have tried the one you have, keep trying til you get it right, and make dad a happy camper.. guess I found my true calling "advice on ostomy bags,",,hey, it all helps, Ginger

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16 years 4 months ago #9730 by anna_fl
Ginger, thanks for starting this convesation. I should of asked couple weeks ago when we started having problems with the bag.
Thank you all - Gean, Rick and harleygirl :) You advice and experience will help us a lot. Yesterday we saw the ostomy nurce and my Dad got a new type of flange - Moldable Convex Skin Barrier. It's made my Convatec. I followed Rick's advice and called Hollister and Convatec today and asked for samples. Will experiement. My Dad is using Eakin, but I learned yesterday that the more is not better. The nurse told us to use thinner pieces. Is this true? We shall see how long this will last.
I confirmed that in Florida they send a home health nurse to the patient, not the ostomy nurse. There is not enough stoma nurses in Florida... Thanks so much.

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16 years 4 months ago #9650 by Gene Beane
I am glad I started this discussion, everyones comments will help someone I am sure.
There are so many variables when it comes to bags , types, barrier rings etc. All tips help so thanks for replying. Ginger

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16 years 4 months ago #9647 by harleygirl
My Dad also has a depression (crease) below the stoma area. He uses these wonderful things called Eakin seals. There is an identical product called Adapt Barrier Rings (I think that's the name). This product is stretched and placed inside the ring on the wafer and fills in any places where the wafer might not make good contact with the skin. It reminds me of what caulk does for a home. He is 6 months post-op and so far, knock on wood, has had only one leak.

He changes every four days to prevent leaks and to also prevent bacteria buildup. This works well for him. My Mom does the changing for him as his stoma is in a hard-to-see place for him and he still has a stent from the left kidney protruding from the stoma. I am diligently trying to talk him into doing the change himself. He changed everything a few times in the hospital with the ET nurse supervising.

He also wears a belt to help keep the weight off the bag. This gives him an extra sense of security. He is wearing pre-cut Hollister New Image two-piece system.

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